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count or Abatement for the Arrear of Interest due “ And to the latter of them, they answered, “ That “ from the Dates of the Tallies and Orders to the “ it was the general Practice; and they never saw it“ Time you received them, excepting where the Asigne “ otherwise,

ments on the Bills direct otherwise ?
“ He said, “ That what Tallies he received, he had

( being asked, “ When Bills " the Interest attending the Tallies; and made no Dif

assigned on Tallies and Orders count to the Treasurer of the Navy, nor his Instru

are brought to be paid at the 6. ments.”

Treasury-office of the Navy;

“ Mr. Im. Hubbald, whether it is now the Practice “ Then, being asked, “ When Tallies were paid him, “ Mr. Henry Durley, and Custom, to allow the Arby the late Treasurer of the Navy, or his Instru “ Mr. John Warfild, rear of Interest due on such ments, whether the Orders belonging to the Tallies

Tallies and Orders, at the were delivered to him generally with a Name to a

Time when the Navy Board • Blank on the Back of them; and did not he, or his

made their Assignments on the “ Aslignees, receive at the Exchequer the Arrear of

Bills?" “ Interest due on such Tallies and Orders, from the “ Dates of them, excepting when Alignments on Bills

They severally said, “ It is now the Practice.” “ direct otherwise ?"

Die Sabbati, 11° Martii, 1703. " He said,

“ He doth not remember whether my “ Lord Orford, or his Officer, signed the Orders with a Blank on them, or whether they were filled up;

Examinations of some of the Commissioners “ but be received the Interest attending the Tallies.”

“ of the Navy, the now Pay-master of the

“ Navy, the Slop-seller, and his Book-keeper, being asked, " When

“ several of the Pursers, Surgeons, and other any Tallies and Orders

“ Persons, lately, or now, serving in the were issued, by the late Treasurer of the Navy,

Navy, touching Poundage paid to the Paya

“ masters of the Navy. or his Instruments, to them, for any Bill, or “ Sir Richard Haddock Knight, Comptroller of the Bills, assigned by the “ Navy, Dennis LyddetlEsquire, Comptroller of the FreaNavy Board to be paid

“ surer of the Navy's Accompts, Robert Maddocks Senior

in Tallies and Orders, “ Sir IVm. Gore,

Esquire, Paymaster to Sir Thomas Osborne (now Duke did “ Mr. Peter Joy,

you
receive such Tal.

“ of Leeds), and Sir Edward Seymour formerly, and “ Mr. Thomas Death,

lies and Orders from the

“ Sir Thomas Littleton now, Treafurers of the Navy, “ Mr. Ambrose Crawley,

late Treasurer of the “ William Beckford Esquire, Slop-seller, and Mr. Joseph Sir Stephen Evance, and Navy, or his Instruments, i

Navy, or his Instruments, “ Mosely his Book-keeper ; Mr. Edward Lawford, Mr. " Mr. John Bellamy,

without allowing or ma Richard Chaplin, Mr. Christopher Godsalve, Mr. John king any Discount or

Grundy, Mr. Nathaniel Dogget, and Mr. Henry Carter, Abatement for the Ar

“ Pursers and Surgeons, lately or now serving in the rear of Interest, due from “ Navy; Mr. Richard Uthwait, and Captain Hugh Ridthe Dates of the Tallies

ley, formerly serving in the Navy; all of them having and Orders to the Time

« been sworn at the Bar :
you received them, ex-
cepting where the Al-

“ Sir Richard Haddock being asked, " How long he
signments of the Bills“ hath been in the Service?"
direct otherwise ?”

" He said, “ He hath been so ever since the Year They severally said, “ That it has been so in “ Practice ; and they never received the Tallies or her" wife.”

“ And being asked, “ What he hath known, heard,

or understood, as to the Custom of paying Poundage “ Then being asked, “ When Tallies were paid “ to the Pay-masters of the Navy, for Slop-cloaths, To“ them, by the late Treasurer of the Navy, or his In " bacco, Ministers Groats, Surgeons Two-pences, and “ ftruments, whether the Orders belonging to the

“ Chest at Chatham ; and for how long he hath known, “ Tallies were delivered to them generally with a

or heard, that the said Poundage hath been ac“ Name to a Blank on the back of them; and whether“ customed to be paid ?” “ they, or their Aflignees, did not receive at the Ex“ chequer the Arrear of Interest due on such Tallies “ He said, “ He hath heard all along, ever since " and Orders, from the Dates of them, excepting when

“ the Year 1673, that Poundage hath been received Aflignments on Bills direct otherwise ?”

" by the Pay-master.” They severally said, “ We generally had the Or “ Mr. Lyddell being asked the fame Question ; “ ders, with Blank Assignments of the Treasurer, or “ his Instruments; and they generally passed from Hand

“ Said, “ He hath heard, ever since he knew the to Hand without being filled up, till the late Act of “ Navy (which hath been Thirty Years), that it hath “ Parliament for registering."

“ been practised, till about the Time of the Vote of the

“ House of Commons.” Mr. Henry Johnson, S being asked the Two last “ Mr. Robert Maddocks Senior, being asked, “ In “ Mr. John Crawley, { mentioned Questions : " what Year he began to serve the Navy ?"

“ To the former of them, they answered," That “ Said, “ He came into the Treasury of the Navy in s they always received the full Interest upon all the Or• “ the Year 1652.” - ders and Tallies that ever they received."

“ 1652."

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Being asked, " Whether he ever heard, or knew, “ from the Time of the Restoration, of any of the “ Treasurers of the Navy taking Poundage for Defal. * cations?"

“ He said, “ He never knew of any."

“ He faid, “ He hath paid it these 17 Years, till “ the last 4 Years; and he knew by his father's Books “ of Accompts, that he paid it before him.” He said, "" He was examined upon Oath by the Commisoners «s for taking the Public Accompts; and he answered to " the same Effect.”

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Being asked, “ What he knew, or heard, of the Go“ vernment's allowing the Treasurers of the Navy Three “ Mr. Edward Lawford, being asked the last-men“ Pence per Pound, of all Monies issued and paid by

« tioned Question : « them for the Service of the Navy ; and when did the “ Said, “ He had been in the Navy 24 Years; and “ Allowance determine, and the Salaries allowed them

“ he knows, that as to Tobacco, Poundage was always « in Lieu thereof commence ?"

“ taken till the Year 1697 or 1698.” And he said, " That " He said, “ From the Time of the Restoration it

“ when he was examined upon Oath by the Commis“ was taken, till November 1668 : Then the Salaries “ fioners of Accompts, he answered them to the same

« Effect he hath now done." " began ; because the King in Council found that the “ Poundage, upon the Increase of the Navy, became very extravagant.

Mr. Richard Chaplin, being asked the same Question : “ Being asked, “ What he hath known, or heard, “ as Malter Surgeon ; and he hath known it by his

“ Said, “ He came into the Navy in the Year 1689, “ from the Time of the Restoration, concerning Poun

own Knowledge from that Time, and by Report “ dage paid the Pay-masters of the Navy, for col“ lecting Defalcations, before he was Pay-master of the « mined by the Commiflioners of Accompts; and he

many Years before.” He said, “ He hath been exa“ Navy?"

" said the same there as he now doch." “ He said, " It was always allowed, from the Time u of the Restoration, without any Manner of Ex “ Mr. Christopher Godsalve, being asked the same “ ception or Complaint.”

" Question : “ Being asked, “ What Salary per Annum he had, for

“ Saith,“ He hath been 31 Years, last February, in “ himself and Clerks, during his being Pay-master under

“ the Service of the Navy; and he hath known Sir Edward Seymour ?

“ Poundage paid ever since he knew the Navy, till the

« Order of Council about Four Years since. And he “ He said, “ Three Hundred and Fifty Pounds per

“ hath been examined by the Commissioners for Ac« Annum ; sometimes he had, in Time of Action, Eight

compts; and answered to the fame Effeer.” or Ten Clerks, which he always paid himself, and

“ Mr. John Grundy, “ which he was the better enabled to do, by the

" Mr. Joseph Mosely, Poundage."

“ Mr. Hugh Ridley, being asked the same

“ Mr. Richard Uthwat, Question : “ Mr. Robert Maddocks Senior, being asked, “ What 6 Mr. Nath'l Doggett, “ Salary per Annum he hath now for himself, and how “ Mr. Henry Carter, “ much for his Clerks per Annum ??

« Severally faid, “ Ever since they belonged to the “ He said, “ Upon Sir Thomas Littleton's being made « Navy, till about Four Years since.” “ Treasurer of the Navy, the King in Council, increased “ the Pay-master's Salary to k. 500. per Annum, and “ And being asked, " In what Year they began to s with an Allowance of Six Clerks, paid by the King, “ serve in the Navy?"

upon Confideration of His taking off the Pay-master's Poundage for Defalcations for the future.”

“ Mr. Mosely said, “ He hath belonged to the Navy

« about Forty Years." “ Mr. Wm. Beckford being asked, “ What he “ hath knowo, heard, or understood, as to the Cuf

“ Mr. Ridley said, “ He hath belonged thereto about tom of paying Poundage to the Pay-masters of the

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Years." “ Navy, for Slop-cloaths, Tobacco, Ministers Groats,

“ Mr. Uthwat said, " About 22 or 23 Years.” “ Surgeons Two-pences, and Chest at Chatham ; for “ how long Time he hath known, or heard, that the

“ Mr. Dagget said, “ About 53 or 54 e faid Poundage hath been accustomed to be paid ?"

“ Mr. Carter said, “ About 46 Years.”

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53 or 54 Years."

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Die

« Die Sabbati; rith March 1703.

Mr: George Dodington, Paymaster to the late Treasurer of the Navy, produced to the Lords Com.
“ mittee Three Accompts, stated with, and allowed by, the Governors of the Chest at Chatham
(videlicet,) for the Year 1683, 1686, and 1687, in the Treasurership of the late Lord Viscount
Falkland; and also a like Accompt for the Year 1689, in the Treasurership of the Right

Honourable the Earl of Orford: Copies whereof are as follow } (videlicet,) “ A State of the Accompt of the Chest of Ships, Guard-ships, and Ordinaries, paid by George Dodington

Esquire, Paymaster of His Majesty's Navy, between the ift of October 1682, and the 31th of December 1683 Debtor

Creditor. " To Chest and Neglect, abated on the £

By Two-penices and Four-pencès, paid £. .. d. * Ships and Yards Books, paid within 1731 03 to the respective Surgeons and Ministers " the aforesaid Time,

3 belonging to the said Ships and Ordi- }1367 12 naries,

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“ We, the Governors of the Chest at Chatham, do Mr. George Dodington also produced the Treasurer of “ hereby allow of this Accompt; and do acknowledge the Navy's Ledger, for the Year 1683; and in the

to have received from George Dodington Esquire, voluntary Charge thereof, the Treasurer of the Navy Paymaster of His Majesty's Navy, the Sum of Nine- is charged with the Sum of £:1932. 55. 10 d. (being

teen Hundred Thirty-two Pounds, Five Shillings, and the abovefaid Balance) towards clearing the Imprests Ten Pence, being the Balance thereof. Dated 12th granted and paid to the Governors of the Chest at May, 1688.

Chatham ; which said voluntary Charge is signed by the
Commissioners of the Navy undermentioned.

« RICHARD VITTELS.
« PHILIP WHITE.
« JOHN LEAKE.

ROBERT LEE.
WILLIAM BROWNE.
John GREEN.
James GOTHER,

J. Tippitts.
J. SOTHERNE.

Rich. HADDOCK. 25 June, 1688.

" A State of the Accompt of the Chest, of Ships, Guard-ships, and Ordinaries, paid by George Dodington

“ Esquire, Paymaster of His Majesty's Navy, between the 25th March 1686 and the 31th March

« 1687.

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“ A State of the Accompt of the Chest of Ships, Guard-lips, and Ordinaries, paid by George Dodington

Esquire, Paymaster of His Majesty's Navy, between the First of April 1687 and 31th March 1688.

S. d.

s. d.

Debtor.

Creditor. " To Chest, and Neglect abated on the

By Two-pences and Four-pences, paid to “ several Ships and Ordinaries Books 1065 4 6 to the respective Surgeons and Ministers

832 134 “ paid within the Year 1687,

belonging to the said Ships and Ordi-
naries,

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per D. L.

Rich. VITTELLS. W. BROWNE.
Rob. LEE.

THO, AUSTEN. " Ex.

B. TYMEWELL, NOW now Coin

One of the Comof missioner of

missioners of the " the Navy.

Navy.
JAMES EDWARDS.

RDS. THOMAS SMITHECK.
" Mr. George Doddington likewise produced an Original Letter from the Governors of the Chest at Chatham ;

" a Copy whereof is as follows ; (videlicet,)

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" At our general Meeting this Time, to pay the Pensioners who receive Allowances from the Chest, we have “ been informed, by Mr. Lýddell and Mr. Tymewell, of the Service you do the Chest, in the careful collecting, " and timely accompting with our Officer at London, for what comes under your Management, from the Seamen

serving in the Navy; and should be glad it were in our Power of making you such Allowance for the same " as you desire. But, upon Inquiry and Search into our Books, we can neither be informed, or find, that any

greater Allowance has been given to your Predecessors, than what has been lately made you, at your last " accompting with Mr. Lyddell. We are of Opinicn, that your Service deserves a more encouraging Allowance; " but at this Time, when the Chest is in Debt, and for Support of the Charge are furnished with Money by “ Impreit, we do not think it safe for us (or truly in our Power) to increase the accustomary Allowance, other " than has been made. If the Improvement of the Revenue should at any Time become able to defray the “Charge, and put us out of Debt, and be fufficient to enable us to make any extraordinary Expence, we "believe, that Application made at such a Time may be seasonable. We are, Sir,

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“ A State of the Accompt of the Chest, of Ships, Guard-lips, and Ordinaries, paid by George Dodington

“ Esquire, Paymaster of their Majestics Navy, between the ist April 1689, and the 31th March fol

“ lowing

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To Surgeons Two-pences and Mi

By Four Pence per Pound, for £.811) “ nisters Four-pences, abated on the 778 7 31 6s. 31d. being the Money abated for

13 10 4 " said Books,

Chest and Neglect, 1589 13. 7

By the Allowance of 12 di per Pound,
665 3 11 for £. 133. 6s. uid. Surplusage of the

6 13 3
Four-pences and Two-pences,
“ Balance, £. 924 9 75

£.665 3 11

“ Ex. per D. L. now Commissioner of the Navy, 19th July 1690.

“ Mr. George Dodington also produced the Treasurer of the Navy's Ledger for the Year 1689, and in the “ voluntary Charge thereof, the Treasurer of the Navy is charged with the Sum of £.924 95. 77 d. (being “ the abovefaid Balance) towards clearing the Imprests granted and paid to the Governors of the Chest at Chatham, which said voluntary Charge is signed by the Commiflioners of the Navy under-mentioned.

Ottob. 1691.

• Rich. HADDOCK.
“ Rich. BEACH.

JOHN TIPPITTS. .

D. LYDDELL.
« CHA. SERGISON."

Die Sabbati, 11 March 1703. H.

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“ Examinations of Mr. John Coupland, touching the Right Honourable the Earl of Orford's Request to the

“ Honourable the Commissioners of Public Accompts.
Mr. John Coupland (sworn at the Bar) faith, " That when the Earl of Orford

“ That when the Earl of Orford was before the Commislioners for
Accompts, his Lordship desired them, That if they were not satisfied with his Accompts, or if any Thing therein
“ was dubious, they would give him Notice, and he would endeavour to clear the same.” They agreed thereto;
" and told his Lordship, “ That, if any Thing of that Nature happened, his Lordship should be acquainted there-
“ with,” or to that Effect; and, to the best of his Remembrance, they said, “ it was very reasonable.” But he
“ hath not heard since then, they ever sent to his Lordlhip.”

Report to be printed and published.

To which Report the House agreed, and ordered as follows:
“ It is ORDERED, by the Lords Spiritual and Temporal in Parliament assembled, That the Report made this
Day, from the Lords Committees appointed to take into Consideration the Observations of the Commissioners

appointed by a late Act of Parliament, for taking, examining, and stating, the Public Accompts of the
“ Kingdom, and the Answers put in thereunto, with the Commissioners of Accompts Reply, and any other
“ Matters relating thereunto, shall be forthwith printed and published.”

Address for a

Scotch Con

The Order being read, for taking into further Con Then the House went into Debate upon Sir John Motion to fpiracy:

fideration the Report from the Lords Committees ap- Macleane's First Narrative, made by him to the Earl of declare Sir J. pointed to examine into the Scotch Conspiracy, and the Nottingham, and presented to the Queen, the Cabinet Narrative Papers and Matters relating thereunto: And it being Council, and this House, by the said Earl, at Her Ma- and the Papers

relating to it, proposed, “ To address to Her Majesty, for a Pardon to jesty's Command.

imperfect : “ Sir John Macleane ;” and Debate thereupon:

And, after long Debate thereupon, and several The House came to the following Resolution ; vi- Questions proposed relating thereto, this Question was delicet,

stated; (videlicet,)
That, Sir John Macleane having made an ingenuous " That that Part of the Narrative relating to Sir
Pandon for
Sir J. Mac-

“ Confession to the Lords Committees appointed to John Macleane, and the Papers relating to his Exa-
“ examine into the Scotch Conspiracy, this House doth “ mination, taken by the Earl of Nottingham, and laid
“ therefore humbly address to Her Majesty, to give Sir “ before the Queen, the Cabinet Council, and this

John Macleane as full and compleat a Pardon as may “ House, are imperfect.”
“ consist with the Safety of Her Majesty and Her People,
“ and to provide for his Subsistence."

Then this previous Question was put, " Whether
“ this Question shall be now put ?"

It was Resolved in the Negative.
Order for his It is ORDERED, by the Lords Spiritual and Tem-
Chefe Confineporal in Parliament assembled, That the Order of this

Disentient, chargiai. House, of the Two and Twentieth of February last, for

the previous the close Confinement of Sir John Macleane, now in “ Because the main Question seems to us to be the Quedios. The Tower of London, shall be, and is hereby, discharged. lightest Censure that can be passed on the Account

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