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was suggested by one of the late marine clerks, that such parts of the imprests as were not received within the current month, were never subsequently brought to account; but with the exception of 1000l. (drawn out on the tenth of July, 1799) there is certainly no foundation for this suspicion; and it seems probable, that the generality of the statements of expenditure in the monthly accounts, unaccompanied as they necessarily were by any vouchers, may have served as a cover for large sums of money, which in fact never may have been applied to the public service.

Not deeming it essential to pursue this part of the subject further, your committee applied themselves to ascertain what steps had been taken on the discovery of these deficiences to secure the public from loss; and they find that extents were issued to the whole amount of the accountant's property; which however falls far short of the amount for which Mr. G. Villiers appears to be responsible to the public, unless there should be articles of discharge unknown to your committee or to the Navy Office, in the present unsettled state of his

accounts.

The debt for which the extent was issued is 264,5071. 11s. 6d. the value of the landed property is estimated at 93,5071. 2s. 8d.There is also 21,6191. 10s. 10d. three per cent. consols, and the security given on his first taking of the office, which was for 10,000l. The bond executed in 1792 is however not forthcoming; and there is reason to think that no bond was executed on his subsequent re-appointment in 1803; although it was

made a condition of his holding the office, that he should give security in the sum of 10,000l. without reference to the security taken in 1792.

Your committee cannot avoid observing upon it as an omission of duty in the Board of Admiralty, by whom he was re-appointed, not to have taken a second bond; and the loss of the first, which remained in the Admiralty about the year 1896, shows a culpable carelessness as to the custody of such important instruments. Securities ought to be taken more frequently than has hitherto been the usage, from all officers in every department who hold situations connected with the receipt or expenditure of public money; and your committee recommend that regulations should be established to that effect, under the directions of his majesty in council or of the commissioners of the treasury.

Large issues continued necessarily to be made between the end of 1804, and the time when the late paymaster quitted his office, amounting to 2,085,8921.; but though this sum swells most considerably the balance of money to be accounted for, calculations which have, been formed in the Navy Office lead that board to conjecture that the whole of it has been applied to the service for which it was imprested.

Money paid on the Royal Marine Service, between the first of January, 1805, to the latest period to which the same is made up.

From Jan. the 1st to Dec. 31st 1805........ 339,001 2 1}

The

The account of

this year appears to be closed, but not

examined by the

late paymaster.

From Jan. 1st. to

Dec. 31st 1806..339,792 13 3

The contingentex

pence of this

year is not made

out, nor includ

ed in this sum.

From Jan. 1st to

vice, your committee bearing in mind, that all useless offices ought to be suppressed, and that every additional channel through which public money flows, affords an additional hazard of the misapplication, detention, or loss of a part of it.

Recent experience in the cases of the acts for regulating the offices of Treasurer of the Navy (25 Geo. III. c. 31.) and Treasurer of the Ordnance (46 Geo. III. c. 45.) induces a reasonable mistrust as to

Dec. 31st 1807 .337,599 14 6 the efficacy of all legislative provi

The contingent ex

pence, and sa

laries, paid in

this year, are

not made out, nor included in this sum.

£1,016,393 9 11

By the books of the late paymaster the accounts for 1808 appear very imperfect, and those for 1809 are not begun to be made out.

The whole amount of balances in the hands of sub-accountants, transferred by Mr. Villiers to the present paymaster, when he succeeded him, was no more than 20,1461. of which 82581. was drawn for, or due for service performed.

The sub-accountants were the deputy paymasters of the four divisions of marines, seven inspect ing field officers connected with the recruiting service, and more than one hundred recruiting officers.

In the course of these investigations it became a maiter of consideration, how far the continuance of the office of paymaster of marines may be necessary for conducting this branch of the public ser

sions and directions; in cases where the temptations to a contrary practice are great, the means of evasion have not been found impracticable.

The commissioners on fees, &c. (in 1787) in their third report, pp. 104 and 5, referred to, and printed in the proceedings in consequence of the finance reports, G. 11. pronounced an opinion as to the inutility of this office, which, "besides being an unnecessary expence, tends to multiply accounts, and disperse the public money; as there will always be a balance left in the hands of each officer to whom any portion of it is issued;" they continue, that, "this office ought, in their opinion, to be carried on in the office of the Treasurer of the Navy, not only as being a branch of the pay of the navy, but that the officers may be contiguous to check the pay of the marines on ship board, the debts due from those who embark, and for other purposes."

There was at that time an agent as well as a paymaster, the former of whom acted as deputy, and transacted almost the whole of the business, and the commissioners recontended the continuance of the efficient Gg 2

person

person in the office, with a salary of 600l. and the discontinuance of the paymaster; but the Board of Admiralty, deeming it more expedient to reverse the suggested improvement, abolished the first, and continued the second; the great diligence and regularity of Mr. G. Villiers, who was represented in the report from the Admiralty of August 1799, G. 11. as an able and attentive officer, by whom, since his appointment in 1792, the business of nearly the whole of the marine department had been conducted, being given as a reason for disregarding this recommendation of the commissioners. The removal of the agent, after a service of twenty-eight years in the marine department, was attended with an annual expence in the nature of a compensation, paid out of the marine poundage and stoppages, and directed to be inserted in the paymaster's annual account.

The committee examined several persons of experience as to the propriety of abolishing this office. [Sir A. Snape Hammond, late comptroller of the navy, thought the office of no advantage. Sir T. Thompson gave the same opinion less decisively. Mr. Rose, treasurer of the navy, thought the payments could be made at his office, toge ther with the widows' pensions.]

The present paymaster of the navy, Mr. Smith, did not point out any objection to placing the officers now in the Marine Pay Office under the controul of the Treasurer of the Navy; who being in the course of paying about 120,000 seamen, could, in his opinion, without much inconvenience, pay 30,000 marines. Captain Varlo, one of the four deputy paymasters, concurred in

the same view of the proposed alteration.

Captain Kempster, an agent for several officers of marines; conceived it to be essential, that either the paymaster or agent should be retained, and that it would have been much better if the latter had been continued, and the former suppressed.

Your committee therefore do not hesitate in recommending to the house, that this office should be forthwith suppressed; and that the business should be transacted in the office of the Treasurer of the Navy, under whose direction drafts may be prepared of such regulations, and an estimate of such an establishment as may be necessary for that purpose, which ought to be submitted to, and approved by the commissioners of the treasury.

It may derive consideration, whether some of the houses in Somerset Place, as they become vacant, may not be applied to the extention of such offices as are at present cramped for want of room. Your committee being of opinion, that official houses are (except in some special cases) an improvident mode of adding to salaries, or of paying public servants, inasmuch as the charges upon the public, for building in the first instance, and for continual repairs afterwards, are out of all proportion to the benefit or accommodation which is derived to the officers who inhabit them.

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The business of the conductor is to pay all contingent and incidental expences incurred in the Treasurer's office (amounting annually to 13,000 or 14,000l.) for which purpose money is imprested to him from time to time from the Navy Board, on the authority of letters from the Paymaster of the Navy, stating that the balance stands according to the certificate of the conductor, which is enclosed in each letter.

It is the duty of the Paymaster of the Navy to examine and certify to the Navy Board, the conductor's half-yearly account, retaining the vouchers in his own office. These balf-yearly accounts do not exhibit the money imprested to the conductor, nor the balance due from him. The particulars of money imprested are kept in the books of the Navy Board; but the applications for imprests pass through the paymaster's hands, who keeps no account of those imprests; nor did be conceive that it was his duty to compare the sums advanced to the conductor with the sums expended by-hini.

The commissioners of the navy pronounced, after full deliberation, that the conductor was not an accountant with their board for money received, as they had no controul over it; and as it was totally out of their power to ascertain, whether the balances stated in his application for money were correct, unless they were in possession of his-accounts, and of the vouchers for his payments up to the date of his application.

Mr. Charles Barrow (the late conductor) was responsible for the balance of 37131, at the end of

1808, which was increased to 56891. in January 1810.

An extent has been issued against him for the sum due, but there is no probability that more than 5001. will be recovered. No security was taken for the due discharge of his duty, nor has it been usual to require it in that department. A case has been laid before the crown lawyers for their opinion as to prosecuting him criminally.

A mode of effectual check, with regard to the future balances, has been provided; and security has been taken in the sum of 20001. from the successor of Mr. Barrow, in pursuance of a minute of the treasurer, dated the twelfth of March, 1810.

The incidental and contingent expenditure within any office ought unquestionably to undergo a strict examination, in the first instance, by the superiors in that department; but its final audit and allowance ought not to rest there: as no office whatever should be suffered to remain responsible only to itself; and for this reason, as well as for those which are before stated with reference to passing the paymaster's annual accounts, your committee consider that the practice, which was established by the order in council, the ninth of August, 1806, "By which the Navy Board, to whose examination and controul the contingent expences were formerly subject, are directed to allow them on the certificate of the paymaster." (fourth report commissioners on fees, p. 136.) ought to be discontinued; and that the vouchers themselves should be transmitted together with each half-yearly account, Gg 3

for

for final examination by the Navy Board.

A default, to the amount of 93,9261. in the account of the treasurer of the ordnance, would naturally have found a place in the present report, if it had not undergone the investigation of the commissioners of military enquiry, who have lately presented in their twelfth report, an ample and distinct detail upon this subject. Your committee however desire, in passing, to call again the attention of the house to the practical inefficiency of the late act for the regulation of this office, and to enforce the observations of the commissioners "that upon the second appointment of Mr. Hunt in 1807, the not taking any security from him," was a great omission of duty.

Abstract of the Bullion Report.

Your committee have found that the price of gold bullion, which, by the regulations of his Majesty's mint, is 31. 17s. 10d. per ounce of standard fineness, was, during the years 1806, 1807, and 1808, as high as 41. in the market. Towards the end of 1808 it began to advance very rapidly, and continued very high during the whole year 1809; the market price of standard gold in bars fluctuating from 41. 9s. to 41. 128. per oz. The market price at 41. 10s. is about 15 per cent. above the mint price. It appeared to your committee, that it might be of use, in judging of the cause of this high price of gold bullion, to be informed also of the prices of silver during the

same period. The price of standard silver in his Majesty's mint is 5s. 25. per ounce; at this standard price, the value of a Spanish dollar is 4s. 4d. or, which comes to the same thing, Spanish dollars are, at that standard price, worth 4s. 11d.per

ounce.

It is stated in Wettenhall's Tables, that throughout the year 1809, the price of new dollars fluctuated from 5s. 5d. to 5s. 7d. per ounce, or from 10 to 13 per cent. above the mint price of standard silver. In the course of the last month, new dollars have been quoted as high as 5s. 8d. per ounce, or more than 15 per cent, above the mint price.

Your committee have likewise found, that towards the end of the year 1808, the exchanges with the continent became very unfavourable to this country, and continued still more unfavourable through the whole of 1809, and the three first months of the present year..

Hamburgh, Amsterdam, and Paris, are the principal places with which the exchanges are established at present. During the last six months of 1809, and the three first months of the present year, the exchanges on Hamburgh and Am sterdam were depressed as low as from 16 to 20 per cent. below par; and that on Paris still lower.

So extraordinary a rise in the market price of gold in this country, coupled with so remarkable a depression of our exchanges with the continent, very clearly, in the judg ment of your committee, pointed to something in the state of our own domestic currency as the cause of both appearances. But, before they adopted that conclusion, which seemed agreeable to

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