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just submitted to the House to be merely April 15.
an attempt to enforce the propofitions beHeard counsel on the appeal in which fore fubmitted, though in a different John Irving, late provost of the burgh of Ihape, he felt it to be his duty to move on Annan, and others, were appellants, and them the previous question. Mrs. Nancy Shortreid, and others, re Mr. Jobn Elliott feconded the previous fpondents. Affirmed the interlocutor queftion. complained of
Mr. Martin, Lord Fielding, Sir James
St. Clair Erskine, Mr. Fox, and others, In the Commons, the same day, bal. supported the original motion. loted for a Committee to try the merits Mr. Yorke, Sir James Murray, the of the Oiknev contested election petition. Chancellor of the Excbequer, and others,
Thomas Mofers, Esq. chairman of the were for the previous question, which Ludger tha'l Election Committee, report. was carried : Ayes 254, Noes 162. ed, that William Asheton Harbord, Esq.
April 18. and George Auguftus Selwyn, Esq. were Sir Gilbert Elliot presented a petition dulv elect d.
from the General Allembly of the Kirk A new writ was ordered to be issued of Scotland, praying relief against certain for the election of a representative to serve clauses of the Telt Act., for Ludgershall, in the room of George In a Committee on the Slave trade, Sir Auguftus Selwvn, Esq. deceased. William Dolben in the chair,
Mr. Baker said, he meant to bring un Mr. Wilberforce opened the important der confideration what ought never to be buliness of its abolition. He reviewed forgotten in that House, – their duty to the eridence betore the Houle, comenquire into the justice and neceflity of mencing with that part which treats of all measures, to the support of which the manner in which Slaves were obtain: the money of their confijtuents was like. ed from the continent of Africa. He ly to be wanted. He then contended, quoted Governor Parry's letter, who that the war we wire now about to be condemned the trade, as having been too plunged into was a war not only unpo. long a disgrace to the country, and urged pular within that House, as was evidently the neceflity of its abolition. He said, proved by the refpe&able and growing from several proofs of the depredations minoriry, but was a war reprohated by made upon the coasts by the captains of the majority of the country. It was his the Slave Thips, he had not a doubt, hose that gentlemen would exert them- could the Houle see the misery occasionselves to compel the Minifter to an ex ed by this bloody trade, from the obtainplanation ; and, until such an explana- ing of the Slaves to their carriage in the tion was made, or until the project was Middle Paisage, and to their treatment abandoned, he entreated gentlemen to in the Illands, that there would be an bring the butiness forward upon every unanimous vote for its abolition, and occafion. He concluded by moving, that the most strenuous defenders of the
“ That it is, at all times, the right and trade would abandon it in despair. He duty of this House, before they conlent went at some length into the proof of the to lay any new burdens on their coniti. mortality it occafioned among our sea
to enquire into the justice and men; and, after endeavouring to prove neceffity of the objects in the prosecution that it would not be finally of any great of which such burdens are to be in- loss to the nation at large, moved for a curred."
total abolision of the Slave Trade. This motion, if successful, he meant to Col. Tarlelon, Mr. Grosvenor, and follow by another; viz. “That no infor- Mr. Burden, were against the abolition ; mation had been given to that House Mr. Martin and Mr. Francis were for which could fatisfy the House that the the motion. expences to be incurred by the present The Chancellor of the Exchequer, witharmament were necessary to support the ing to have the business amply discutied, interest of this country.”
proposed to adjourn the debate until toMr St. John seconded the motion.
Mr.Cox confidered the great minority Mr. Cawthorne and Col. Tarleron ob. of that House to be a decided proof that jected to the adjournment of the question ; the tense of the nation was against the but, finding it to be the sense of the war with Rullia, and should support the House, acquiefced; and the House role motion.
at half after eleven o'clock. Mr. Carew, considering the motions
from the Court of Session in Scotland be. In the adjourned debate on the Slave tween John Laird, mercliant, of Greece trade,
ock, appellant, and Melirs. Robertlon Sir William Young opposed the motion, and Co. of the same place, respondents. The House, he said, if they abandoned Upon the motion of the Lord Chancellor, the trade by an abolition, would abandon the interlocutor complained of was reit to other countries, which, instead of verled, and the cause remitted to the bertering the miseries we desired to re Court of Seffion, with instructions. medy, would render them ten times more Adjourned to the ad of May. severe and aggravating. Upon those grounds he was determined to give his In the Commons, the same day, the negative to unqualified abolition, though Roman Catholic bill was read the third no man was more delirous to see the obe time, and palled. ject of abolition obtained in a moderate Lord Tischfielt took the oaths and his way.
feat for the county of Buckingham. Lord John Ruffel considered the plan
April 21. proposed to abolish the Slave trade as vi Mr. Elliott, chairman of the, Orkney honary, chimerical, and dangerous; and contested el Etion Committee, reported, that the general interests of humanity that J. Balfour, efq. was duiy elected i and liberty would not be advanced by and that the petition of Col. Duodas apabolishing it.
peared to be frivolous, but not vexatious. Mr. Stanley said, that he should not have ventured to speak upon a subject of
LORDS. so much importance, if he had not had fome local knowledge of ihe West India The Roman Catholic bill was read the illands by the experience of near thirty first time, and ordered to be printed. years; and if the cause of the Plareers and Merchants, while it was attacked by In the Communs, the same day, a bill the eloquence of the most able men in for building a new bridge over the and out of that House, did not very Thames at Sraines was brought in, and much want the affiitance of those, whose read the first time, experience gave them fome degree of competence to the subject. Mr. Stanley then (poke for a considerable time in den fence of the trade, and supported his opi. Lord Grenville moved, “ that the renions by some copious quotations from port of the Committee, appointed to the Scripture, and from Locke, and other search for precedens relating to the conauthors.
tinuance of the inpeachment, thould be Mr. W. Smith defended the motion. taken into confid ration on Monday te'nHe reprobated the arguments of the Hon. dighe; and that the Houle be summoned Gentleman, who had endeavoured to for that day," prove froin Scripture that Christianity and Slavery were not incompatible. He In the Commons, the same day, in then read several instances of the most Committee on the pi chard fichery, came atrocious cruelty in the captains of Slave to a relolution to grant an additional Ihips, which excited, in a wonderful de bounty of 15. 6d. on every cask of 50 gree, the merriment of some part of the gallons. House. He concluded, that the Slave trade was as prejudicial to the interest of our Wei.Inuia poiieflions as it was adverle to humanity.
The Lord Chancellor came down to Mr. Cawtborne opposed the motion, the Foul about tree o'clock; and, atas did Col. Pipps.
ter a long conference between his Lord. The Chanceilor of ibe Exchequer and thip and Lord Grenville, their Lordlaips Mr. Fox spoke long and animaied for went into a Cunnitee of Privileges the motion; after which the House di. In the confidation of the leveral revided, for the abolition 88, against it titions refpesting the ele Etion of Scotch 163. Aajourned at four o'clock.
peers, Coun:el were heard in the case of
In the Conmins, the fame day, a new Heard counied further in the appeal wris was ordetud tó bó made out for the
H. OF LORDS.
election of a member of parliament for the circumstances would admit to the the town of Lymington, in the county British--the difference between their of Hants.
Revolution and that of France would May 6.
bear no comparison ; the Americans had Mr. Newnbam presented a petition, what was esi'entially necefsary for freecomplaining of the Ludgerthall elc&tion. dom, they had the phlegm of the good. To be confidered on the 15th of August. temper of Englishmen-ihey were fitted
The order of the day being read, for for republicans by a republican educathe Houfe going into a Committee upon tion in the form of their government, the Quebec bill, Mr. Hobart in the chair, maintained by a vigilant and beneficent
Mr. Burke delivered his promised monarch. Their Revolution was not opinion upon the bill then before the brought about by base and degenerate Committee. They were about to exer crimes; nor did they overturn a governcife the highest poflible act of fovereign ment for the purposes of anarchy, but ty, in the formation of a Conftitution for they raised a republick as nearly reprethe government of a considerable body fenting the British Government as it of me: in doing of which they ought was poffible-they did not run into the to be weil aflured of their competence; absurdity of France, and, by seizing on and it was neceflary to enquire where the righis of men, declare that the nathe right originated that we claimed to
uon was to govern the nation, and legillate for Canada. If the right of le- Prince Pretty man to govern Prince gillation, and of forming governments, Prettyman. There were in Canada mawas to be guided in this country upon ny of the ancient inhabitants; would it the foundation of the rights of men, it be proper to give them the French Conwould be an abfolute ufurpation. There fitution? In his opinion, there was not was, however, another ground of right a single circumstance that recommended to form a government, namely, the the adoption of any part of it, for the lavs of nations. Having obtained Ca- whole of it was abominably bad-the nada by conqueit, we had a right by the production of folly, pot wisdom-of laws of nations to form a government vice, not virtue; it contained nothing for her, founded on justice, equity, and but extremes, as distant from each other for the happiness of the people. We as the Poles the parts were in eternal had the cellion of the former lovereign, oppohtion to each other it was founded and the laws of prescription; and, on on what was termed the rights of men ; those grounds, he was convinced we but, to his conviction, it was founded had a right to make laws for Canada. in the wrongs of men, and he then held Having established that right, it would in his hand an example of its effects on be readily admitted, that we were bound the French colonies-Domingo, Guato give them the best government they daloupe, and the other French islands, were capable of receiving, for the pro were rich, happy, and growing in motion of their internal happiness, and strength and consequence, in spite of the external relation they had to this the three last distrelling wars, before country. In doing this, fome gentle, they heard of the new doctrine of the men might conceive it improper and rights of men; but these rights had no unnecessary to resort to the experience fooner arrived at the lands than any of antiquity, but would give the prefe- spectator would have imagined that rence of resort to the happiness of Paris, Pandora's box liad been opened, and to the proceedings of London clubs, that Hell had yawned out discord, murand to the Paris lanterns for illumina. der, and every mischief, for anarchy, tion. Neither would he reiort to anti- confufon, and bloodthed, raged every quity; but would take, as the examples where, it was a general summons for on which he should argue the Constitus Black spirits, and white, tien to be given to Canada, the example
Blue spirits, and grey, of the American, the French, and the Mingle, mingle, mingle, Brisidh Confitutions. The Constitution
You that mingle may. of Aincrica was dit to be considered, on When the Allembly heard of these dif. account of its being in the neighbour orders, they ordered troops to quell hood of Canada; and as we were bound them; but it proved that the troops bad by policy to provide a Constitution that jomed the inlurgenis, and murdered would give the Canadians no reason to their commander. He looked on the envy their neighbour's. The American Revolucion with horror and develation; Constitution was made as agrecable as it was a Revolucion of conlunmate fol.
ly, formed and maintained by every disorderly in proceeding to state the vice. The House had been told by a Constitution of France. Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Fox) on a Mr. Burke infifted, that, when we former day, that the Revolution was a were forming a Constitution, we had a memento of human integrity ; but he right to discuss on any, so as to give the would shew, before he lat down, from beft. He conceived the present crifis to the last accounts from the National Af- be a momentous one; and, whenever sembly, what their proceedings had other Conftitutions were applauded as lately been in refpect to their boasted preferable to the British, he would ever memento. They had formerly declared itand forward, and attempt to prevent it to be an eternal Conflitution, never our hunting after theoretical Conftituto be thaken; they had made the whole tions. He hoped the people of England pation twear to it; and, when they had were married to their Conftitution, and obtained every thing they appeared to that they would never be separated with, a king and no king--their love from it. He knew that he was disa reign a prisoner to the chief gaoler of charging his duty, in warning his counParis- they were not content; but, try against impending danger; but could wishing to Thew what a degraded thing not comprehend what game those were a king might be, the chief gaoier, M. playing who atrempted to prevent the de la Fayette, allowed his nominal mo- present discussion, Darch a day.rule from Paris, to make Mr. St. Yobn rose to order. an Easter holiday—but against this the Mr. Martin called Mr. Sr. John to magistrates of the Municipality remon. order ; for he was of opinion, that Mr. strated, fearing an escape, though to Burke was not disorderly, and sincerely him it appeared of very little conse- hoped he would proceed. A Rigte quence whether the unfortunate Louis Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Fox) declared, was or was not among his people, un on a former dav, that the publick had less it was for the purpose of intuliing a right to the opinions of public men; him, and of making him the channel of he therefore wilhed that the Right Hon. insult to every kingdom in Europe. Gentleman might experience no farther The remonftrance, however, was not interruption. attended to, and the King, with his at Mr. Burke felt it to be his duty to tendants, fet out for St. Cloud in a give no countenance to schemes, which coach, which was stopped by a grena. he knew did exist, to overturn every dier with a presented bavonet, and a fundamental principle of the Confirudeclaration that he (the King) thould tion. He knew it, and he charged ic not proceed.
that such machinations were in exifta Here Mr. Baker faid, that, great as ence; and though they might not be his opinion was of the Right Hon. Gen- immediately attempted, they might be, ileman's integrity, he mult call hin to when brought to maturity, in other order, as he was totally deviating from reigns, and at other times. the order of the day, and going into a The cry of order I order ! became ge. discussion on foreign governments. neral through the House, in which ile
Mr. Fox faid, he believed the Right Chancellor of the Exchequer, Mr. Mar. Hon. Gentleman looked upon this day tin, Mr. Orde, and Col. Phipps, spoke in
a day fixed for fatirizing govern- support of the orderly proceedings of ments; he thought such discuilions to Mr. Burke. Mr. Sheridan, Mr. Grry, tally out of order, and wilhed to hear Mr. St. John, and Lord Sheffield, con. the business of the day,
tended that he was disorderly; and Mr. Burke, with some warmth, ob. Lord Shefield concluded by moving, ferved, that the introduction of the “That ditlertations on the French ConFrench Conftitution upon the discuition ftitution, and a narrative of the transacof the Quebec bill was at least as pro- tions in France, are not pertinent to the per as the introduction of his (Mr. question before the Houte." Fox's) declaration, during the contide Mr. For seconded the motion. ration of the Rullian treaty, of she The Chancellor of the E.xchequer conFrench Conftitution being a beautiful lidered the introduction and ditcullion and Itupendous fabrick. The Right of the French Conftitution to rest on Hoo. Gent. was proceeding, when discretion and order; and should give
Mr. Taylor role to order, and infifted his negative to the motion. that the Right Hon. Gentleman was Mi. Fue replied, and, in the course
of his speech, lamented the present Hif
OF LORDS. ference with his Right Hon. Friend the more deeply, because to him was owing Lords Hertford and Darnley took the the most of what he knew, and from oaths and their seats. him he learnt the principles of a free Earl Fitzwilliam called their Lordgovernment. He was aftonished at his hips' attention to the subject of our present conduct, when he remembered armament against Russia. He entered the length of their friend thip, when he into the value of our trade with Ruitia; recollected the length of time in which and, from calculations, demonstrated they had acted together on the fame the impolicy of our entering into any principles. He recollected when they dispute with that power; and, with a both rejoiced in every viétory of a view of conveying the seose he enterWashington, and when they wept at tained of it, moved, “That an humble the defeat of a Montgomery: he re, address be presented to his Majesty, membered that his Right Hon. Friend praying, that he may be graciously had taught him that a general revolt pleased to take into his most serious could not be countenanced, that it could confideration the material injury which only be provoked. After a few more the trade and manufactures of this observations upon the conduct of Mr. country must sustain in confequence of Burke, he concluded for the motion. our dispute with Russia; and to beseech
Mr. Burke again asserted the Confti. his Majeliy not to hazard the confetution to be in danger, and called for quences of a war with that power, on timely checks. When clubs of men are account of the possession of the fortress fuffered to meet and correspond with of Oczakow, and the uncultivated track the National Assembly; when regular of ground adjoining thereto." anniversaries are permitted to comme A long debate then ensued, in which morate such events as have happened in Lord Rawdon, Lord Stormont, and the France; then the country is in danger : Marquis of Lansdown, spoke in favour when such plots and conspiracies are of the motion; and Lords Grenville, going on ; when feditious and rebel. Mulgrave, and Hawkesbury, against it; lious sermons are delivered from pul- when the House divided, Contents 29, pits; when the King's right to the Non-Contents 96. throne is openly disputed ; and when a bank of fedition is established in the In the Commons, the same day, Mr. heart of the country; the House ought Yorke, in a short speech, moved for leave to take fire and destroy them. He then to bring in a bill to enable the Lord concluded by moving an amendment to Chancellor, the Master of the Rolls, and the motion, to omit the words after the twelve Judges, to receive and for. “differtation,” for the purpose of in- ward letters portage free. ferting “tending to thew that examples The Chancellor of the Exchequer sefrom the said Conftitution of France, to conded the motion. prove it inefficient for every good pur Mr. M. A. Taylor and Mr. Fox spoke pole, and tending to anarchy, confu• against the motion ; and the House die fion, and the destruction of liberty and vided, Ayes 32, Noes 58. property, is applicable to the question before the Committee."
OF LORDS. Mr. Fox rose extremely affected; he
May io. fhed many tears, and with difficulty In a Committee of Privileges, heard proceeded to declare, that, notwith- counsel on the Scotch Peerage Election. Itanding what had patred that day, be could not give up a friend ship that had In the Commons, the same day, Sir existed for 25 years. He replied to Gilbert Elliot moved, that the petition maoy parts of Mr. Burke's speech; and of the General Assembly of the Church concluded by declaring, that, unless their of Scotland be read; which being done, mutual friends exerted themselves to re Sir Gilbere stated the grounds upon fore to him and the Right Hon. Gent. which it had originated, and moved, their former friendship, he fhould not That the Houfe do resolve itself into a think they acted affectionately to him. Committee, to take into consideration
The question of order was withdrawn, such part of the Act of Union as relates and the debate on the clauses adjourned to the Ecclefiaftical Ellablithment of to Wednesday next