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next moved, that a conference be defired formation as would at once convince and with the Lords, and that a Committee be gratify every patriotic mind. He then appointed to draw up reasons against the proceeded to ftate the gross and nett se. amendment. Ordered.
venues of each settlement, beginning In the Committee on the corn bill, with chat of Bengal, referring the ComMr. Alderman Watson moved his pro- mittee to each account, with the estimates miled claule for the warehousing of so- of the preceding years, together with reign corn; which was carried without a that of 1791, pointing out the actual division.
amount received in each of those years, On the motion for the House to go in the surplus, and deficiency in actual reto a Committee upon the bill for velling ceipt, &c. in Earl Cornwallis further powers ;
£ Mr. Francis opposed the motion. The Total revenue
5,620,656 bill, he said, was so fund?mentally bad, Total charges
3,120,14,8 that he could not conscientiously give his aflent to its palling a single stage farther.
2,500, 508 He declared it to be his convičíion, that
FORT ST. GEORGE. the House ought to condemn, instead of Total revenues
1,255,807 giving its fanction to, the resolution of Total charges
1,647,926 the Council of Madras in delegating their powers, which was not only illegal, but
BOMBAY. Rupees. Mr. Hippolley condemned the resolu. Total revenues
1,191,627 tion, and was against the House going Charges
4,902,676 into a Committee on the bill.
His next step was, to state a compariGen. Smith gave his support to the son of the estimated and actual amount bill, conceiving its provisions to be the of the revenues of the East India Comonly remedy that could be offered for the pany in the provinces of Bengal, Bahar, present ftate of affairs in India.
and Oriffa, and from Benares and Oude, Mr. Fox objected to the bill, because under the heads of Mint duries, Postit invelted the Governor-general with office collections, Benares revenue, Oude absolute power; a remedy, whenever subsidy, Land revenues,Cuftoms, Receipts applied, that was, in his opinion, in any from the sales of salt and opium for the year posliole cale, unwise and desperate. 1789.90; and the charges defrayed by
Mr. Dundas said, the bill was not to the said Company in the laid provinces, create an absolute power in India, but under the heads of Civil, Military and merely calculated for the purpose of re Marine, charges of Building, Fortiñcamoring any doubts that might be entere tions, collecting the Revenues and Cure tained upon the acls that might be done, toms, and the advances and charges on or doing, in consequence of the refolution account of salt and opium for the said of the Bengal Government. The bill He then proceeded in the fame was then gone through, and ordered to manner through the remaining Presibe reported.
dencies. The House having resolved itself into The next statement contained an ac. a Committee of the whole Houte on the count of the expences of the Island of finances of India,
St. Helena, and the factory of Canton, Mr. Dundas congratulared himlelf and for three years, together with the exthe Hoult upon the iuperior advantages pences of the Prefidency of Fort Marlbowith which lie was enabled to come for- rough and its dependencies, the nett ward, and lay before them such a state- charges of which, for 1789.90, were ment of our affairs in India, as was not estimated at 34,3991. only graritying in its nature, but, con He also stared an account of the amount trary to thole which had preceded it in of Fort William, Fort St. George, and fermer years, accurate and determinate Bombay, for sales of impost goods and in its detail. Upon all former similar stores, and for certificates on the Court occasions, he had been obliged to content of Directors, within the last three years himielf with such accounts as he could respectively; which, on an average, a imperfectly procure; bui, from having mounted to 3,737,6001. The amount of as uniformly stated, in his dispatches to the debis fubcribed in bodia between the India, those imperfections, he had at 30th of April, 1789, and the 30ih of length the pleasure of being enabled to April, 1790, agrecab'y to the orders of lay before this country such a train of in the 15th of September, 1785, and the
31st of July, 1787, amounted to
At Fort Marlborough 126,384 35,132,500l. The bond and other debts At St. Helena
77,255 owing by the East India Company at their several Presidencies, according to Total
8,394,862 the latest advices, amounted as follows : Having dwelt on these articles even
Total debts in India £70.566,526 to a degree of minuteness, Mr. Dundas Total annual interest 4,471,066 recapitulated the whole; and, having
The balance of cash in the treasury of fruck a balance betwixt the receipts and the East India Company, on the ist of disbursements, a surplus would appear March, 1790, and their receipts and pay on this budget in favour of the Compa. ments in England from the ist of March, ny to the amount of 1,500,000l. and 1790, to the 1st of March, 1791, was upwards; he then stated the appropria6,910,910l. The sums paid for custorns, tion of last year's budget, and named freight, and demurrage, goods and stores the items down to 10,000l. It was imexported, India debe, bills of exchange pollible to state with any degree of cerfrom China, &c. &c. &c. amounted to tainty how far this surplus would be 5,789,5671. which left a balance in fa- permanent under the circumftances of a vour of the ist of March, 1791, of war, of the success of which he did not 921,3431.
hold out any fanguine hopes; nor yet The estimates of the receipts and paye would he join with those who would ments from the 1st of March, 1791, to hold out a gloomy picture. He wilhed the 1st of March, 1792, amounted as for peace; he was not the author of that follows:
war, nothing was more adverse to his Receipts
£.6,958,667 wishes. Mr. Dundas proposed a string Payments
6,567,612 of resolutions, grounded on the ac
counts; and concluded with saying, that Balance in favour of int2 1}
the day, very probably, was not far March, 1792
diftant, when the finances of India The prime-cost of all cargoes pur• would be a support to the finances of chased in India and thipped for Europe this country. in the year 1789-90, amounted Mr. Fox' declared the question he had 1,015,6151. The debts of the East In- asked on a former day to be completely cia Company (exclusive of the debts answered by the latter part of the Hon. transferred from India), and the effects Gencleman's 1peech, which expressly of the Company in England and afloat liated, that the finances of England otward, as they stood on the bit of would be in a short time aflifted by the March, 1791, together with the balance finances of India. He could not help of the quick stock in China, according admiring with how many guarded exto the latest advices, appeared to be : preffions the Hon. Gentleman made this Owing by the Company 4.13,978,436 affertion, and what considerable pains Owing to the Company, &c. 13,695,118 were taken to impre's the Committee
that he was not the author of the war Balance against
233,318 now carrying on in India. He was cerSales of goods between the ait of tain that the expences of it would far March, 1790, and the ist of March, 1791, exceed the income, and, according to arter paying all expences, was slated at the best calculation, would be at the rate
1.435,5821. Sales of goods from China of three miljons a-year. during the same period, after paying all Mr. Hipeifley wilhed that a peace was expences, 2,009 0161 Bond and other concluded. He read an extract from a debts of the Company in Great Britain, lerrer written during the government of as the same ttood on the nt of March, Lord Macartney, which set forth the 1791, 8,888,8981.
policy of maintaining a peace in India. Stock per computation, as it food on
Mr. P. Benfield had not had sufficient the ift of March, 1791, viz. buildings time to read the papers. He should 21.d forțifications, plaie, household fur. therefore move, that the Chairman do DIUIE, plantations, faims, Naves, lloops, report progress, and at leave to fit vifc!ug and ltores, not included in quick again. fucks :
Mr. Dundas could not agree to the
The Chancellor of the Exchequer paid
H.' OF LORD S. many compliments to the accurate and
May 26. clear manner in which his Hon. Friend Lord Kenyon again presided for the (Mr. Dundas) bad laid his statements Chancellor. before the Committee. He had heard A message came from the Commons, no fingle statement contradicted, and requiring a conference, which was agreed 'therefore he fould oppose the motion.
General Smib faid, it was imposible In the Commons, the same day, Lord to form any opinion of the statements Sheffield presented a petition against the without furthar consideration.
Newfoundland Judicature bill. The Chairman then put the motion, The report of the India Budget was that he should report progress, and alkbrought up, read a first and second time, Icave to fit again; which was negatived, and agreed to. without a division. The original resolutions were put,
OF LORDS. and carried; after which the House
May 27. adjourned.
The Lords went in their robes to
Welminfter-hall, to the adjourned trial OF
of Warren Hastings, Esq. Their LordMay 25,
ships then adjourned to the House of Their Lordships went in their robes Lords, where, their Lordships having to Westminster-hall, and proceeded in unrobed, the first order of the day was the trial of Warren Hanings, esq. read, “ That all the Lords befummoned
to attend a conference with the ComIn the Commons, the same day, Mr. mons in the Painted Chamber, on the Fox brought in his bill declaratory of subject of the Sussex Highgate road bill;" the rights of Juries to give a general which conference was relpecting an averdict on all criminal cates, whenever mendment made thereto by their Lorda general iflue was joined between the lips ; to which amendmeni, as it was a parties.
money bill, their Lordthips denied a conThe bill was read the first time. currence in conference.
Mr. Fox moved, that the bill be read The Duke of Ricbmond moved, “That a second time.
a Committee be appointed to draw up Mr. Mirford and the Allorney General and state the reasons of the alteration." were of opinion, that, on a bill of the The reasons, we understand, for al. importance of that now before the tering the bill were, there was a clause House, Gentlemen should pause before which exempted Gentlemen's carriages they gave their affent to its second reade from paying the toll. ing: they both entreated Gentlemen to give the bill a most serious attention. In the Commons, the same day, Mr.
Mr. Erskine faw no necellity whatever Gray presented a petition from the deb. 10 pause ; but had no objection to a tors confined in the King's Bench prison, pause that might not, in the lateness of stating their extreme milery, and praythe session, prove fatal to the bill. ing the House to appoint Commissioners
Mr. Fox moved, that the bill be read to enquire into the number of persons a second time on Friday, and that it be illegally detained, and into the number printed. Ordered.
of those who, after having offered their The state of the nation having been all to their creators, were forced to pine several times before discussed in both and languish in a prison. It was too Houses, and fully detailed, we shall late in the present session to enter on the only on the present occafion mention, business ; but he intreared the Gentlemen that
in Administration to provide medical asMr. T. Grenville made his promised listance for the prisoners, who were at mction, the purpose of which was, to present without any such asistance, or move ao humble address to his Majeily, without any apartment for the fick. to offer such counsel and advice as it
Mr. Powys fpoke allo for the provi. became the duty of his faithful Com. fion of medical skill. mons to offer on the present important Mr. Sberidan made his promised moftuation of affairs; which was nega. tion relative to the Royal Boroughs of lived, Ayes 114, Nues 208.
Scotland, whole grievances he stated to
be, first, that the Magistrates assumed an added to the bill, by way of rider, the illegal right of levving inoney ; second clause agreed to in the Committee for Ix, that they, without controul, took warehoufing foreign corp. upon themselves the appropria ion or Mr. Pelbam and Mr. Harrison deprealienation of such money; thirdiy, that cated the measure, as injurious to the they elected theinfelves, contrary to law lancholder and the farmer, and, conseand charter; and, fourth'v, that there quently, to the agriculture of the country. was no competent Court of Judicature in Mr. Aldeiman Curtis and Mr. Wilberall Scotland to take cognizance of any of force spoke in support of the clause, as thole gricvances.
tending to keep down the price of bread, Mr. infiruiber opposed the motion, which was now too high for the manuaflerting, that no such grievances had any facturers in the metropolis and the counexistence.
Mr. Dundas observed, that, if the Mr. Ryder said a few words on the Hon. Gentleman would, early in the policy of the clause, which, on the quelnext sellion, move for a Committee of tion being put, was carried by a divifion, the whole House to confider of any cirAyes 81, Noes 51. tinct propofition, he would make no oppolition to such motion.
LORDS. Mr. Fox faid, the statement of the existence of the grievances ouglit to induce After reading several bills in their the House to go into a Committee theree different stages, their Lordhips ad.
He fuggefied, in case the motion journed to Westminster-ball, to proceed fhould not be adopted, to move a resolu- on the trial of Warren Haftings, ela tion to take up the butincts early in the The House, on their return, being next leflion.
resulved into a Committee on the QueMr. Sheridan's motion was then put, bec Government bill, Lord Cathcart in and negarived without a division; and the char, their Lord thips proceeded to Mr. Fox's motion agreed to.
hear countel on a petition from the mera Mr. Lovedin, after making several chants of London, presented by Lord observacions upon the illegality and dan Rawdon, against the bill. After the gerous effects that might result to the counsel had concluded, cognitution by delars in an impeach Lord Grenville, in a speech of some ment, moved an humble address to his length, pointed out the good effects that Majesty, not to prorogue his Parliament, were likely to arile from the present until the evidence agaiuit Mr. Hastings biil; tlie greatest boon that Government was closed, bis defence given in, and could beltow upon Canada was, a parjucigement pronounced.
ticipation of that government that was Mr. Dundas opposed the motion, enjoyed by other British colonies, name. which he conlidered to be neither more ly a mixture of arisiocracy, democracy, nor less than a requ furion to the King to and monarchy. The Noble Lord then delegate his prerogat ve into the bands went through the various claules of the of the Lords, Mr. Halurgs, and the bill; which, he said, were allimilated Commons, until they thould think pro as ncarly to the British Conftitution as per lo permit the lettion to be closed.
circumfiances would admit. Major Scott was for the address; as
Lord Abingdon gave his hearly assent were Mr. Burke and M.. Fox, the latter to the prefeot bill, because it went in of whom moved to add the words, or repeal the 14th and 16in of his present fome further progress made.
Majesty, namely, the Quebec bill, and The Mofier of the Rolls and the Chan. the Declaratory a&t; and because be cellor of ibe Exchequer said, they should held it as policy that the Government of give their negative both to the amend. Britain Dould referve to itself a controul ment and to the original motion.
over the legislature of its colonics. The question was put on the amend. Lord Rawdon (aid there was a deficie ment, and negatised by a civilion. Ajes ency in the prefent vill, and pointed out 61, Noch 144.
the detects. The bill for raising new duries on re Lord Portchefer was averse to a diviceipts and bills of exchange was read the five of the province, and to the Clown third time, and patteri ro the Lords.
having a power to infringe upon the The coin regulating will was read the rights of elc&tion. third time,
Lord Grenville funke in reply. Mr. Alderman l'atjon moved to be Lord stormoni thought the mode that
was pursued of hearing the bill at that The Master of the Rolls was of a conlate hour, was to surprize their Lord. trary opinion. Instances, he said, had thips' wildom into midnight of probation. been known of profecutors tampering
Lord Loughborough faid, the commer with the pritoner to compound the fecial laws should be the same throughout lony. the whole province. He dwelt much Mr. Hulley thought the bill a dan. upon the undoubted necellity there was gerous experiment; the good effects of of having independent Judges, anú of the law, as it food at present, were forming a full and direct ettablishment every day felt; he should, therefore, of the criminal law of England in Ca move, That the Chairman do leave the nada. He concluded with saying, the chair.' subsistence of the clergy should not be Mr. Mainwaring agreed with Mr. precarious.
Huffcy. Lord Grenville spoke in reply. Two Serjeant Wolfon pointed out the bad clauses were then gone through, with
effeEls of the law as it now ftands with out any amendment, and the chairman regard to those rewards, particularly reported progress.
with regard to the thief-eakers. Those
that prolecuted for the ends of public In the Commons, the same day, Mr. juliice, would be rewarded those that Dundas brought in two separate biils for did nol, would be treated as they dethe encouragement of seamen in the ferved. royal navy--to prevent frauds in the Mr. Haley's motion was negatived, payment of leamen's wages—and for the without a divifion; after which the biú more speedy recovery of seamen's wages was ordered to be reported. in Ireland, which were read the first On the motion that the Sierra Leona time.
bill be read the third time; The bills, for establishing a Court of Mr. Cawiborne moved, That the inCivil Judicature in the island of New. frument by which King Tom, under foundland, and for regulating the office his mark, had cided that ifland to his of Clerks of Allize, Affociates, and Majelty, be read. He even went into a Clerks of Indictment, were read the soit bistory of the Colony from the third time, and paffed.
year 1767, when Capt. Monlon went In a Committee of the whole house on out with the poor Blacks. Mr. Grenthe bill for regulating gaols and houses of ville Sharpe, that philanthropic genius, correction, in that part of Great Britain had furnished them with a code of laws. called England, on the claute, impow. What was the consequence? They fell ering the Jullices of Oyer and Termin out amongst themielves-the code was ner, on the report of the Visitor, to re torni - numbers died--and defolarioa mit the punishment of prisoners in pro- daily marked the scene. He doubled the portion to good behaviour, and to en powers of Pariiament under the cellion courage good behaviour by small pre. of Tom; and observed, that the bill miums.
went to revive a monopoly, which had Mr. Burden approved of the idea, but cost this country, about fiy years ago, thought that it trenched on one of the 112,00cl. to lay open; as one of the highest prerogatives of the Crown, the clauses stated that thie adventurers were remillion of punishment.
to enjoy an exclufive aud lole right, to Mr. Powys did not wish to trench on the exclufion of the Englith, for all the any of the prerogatives of the Crown, other nations of Europe enjoyed the particularly the one in question, which privilege of trading in that quarter. had always been laudably exercised. Mr. Stanley (tre elder) cook it up on
Mr. Burdex then proposed an amende the law of nations and the navigation ment, which placed the power of remit. act of a Britila Colony, as it certainly lion in the Crown; and this was adopred. was under the bill in question; the na•
In a Committee of the whole House, vigation act would attach on it, and the on the bill for the better regulating the provvions of the former would clash diftribution of rewards in cases of con with those of the latrer. viction of felony,
Lord Sbaffic id laid a few words against Mr. Burden thought that there ought the bill. to be some specific sum mentioned, as Sir W. Young said, his name had beer the certainty of some reward would ope- implicared with the West India mer. rate in favour of bringing offenders to chants on the subject; if the object of justice.