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Senator HOLLINGS. Who is doing that with this timeless bomb? Who is seeing whether there is a more effective means?

Mr. WARNKE. We are doing it, among others, Mr. Chairman. We are engaged, of course, actively in studying the question of alternative fuel cycles.

In addition to that, as you know, there is an office in the State Department which was headed up by Joseph Nye under the Under Secretary for Security Assistance. That office, too, is engaged in that sort of a solution.

VERIFICATION

Senator HOLLINGS. With respect to enforcement, the Standing Consultative Commission serves as an implementing body for the SALT agreements.

Mr. WARNKE. That is correct.

Senator HOLLINGS. What is your freedom of movement within the Soviet Union for onsite inspection so that you can insure the enforcement of these agreements?

Mr. WARNKE. No arrangements have been made as yet for onsite inspection, Mr. Chairman. This is one of the means of verification that would have to be explored intensively if we are able to develop otherwise

Senator HOLLINGS. But no agreement has been made with respect to travel?

Mr. WARNKE. Not as yet. Given the present arms control agreements, we are satisfied with the verifiability that we have. Obviously, if we are able to get more comprehensive arms control agreements, arrangements will have to be made for additional forms of verification. The Soviet Union has indicated its willingness to consider onsite inspection as being one of those measures.

Senator HOLLINGS. What about satellite access and hindrance? Has that been discussed?

Mr. WARNKE. Yes. That problem again was raised in Moscow. It was one of the working groups that was established, that there would be a study of antisatellite activity, with a view toward preventing that kind of development.

CONVENTIONAL ARMS TRANSFERS

Senator HOLLINGS. Now, with regard to conventional arms control and arms transfers. Describe your Agency's role in these areas visa-vis that of State and Defense's role. Does the Carter administration intend to follow through on the previous administration's plans to centralize control over conventional arms transfers?

Mr.WARNKE. I believe that the control over conventional arms transfers is under study at the present time. No final decision has been made as to the exact mechanism.

You are correct, though, sir, that the Administration does plan to centralize that control so that there is a clearer idea of just exactly what developments are taking place. But the final decisions have not as yet been reached.

Senator HOLLINGS. Many times all the arms agreements and sales have been agreed to before your Agency seemingly gets into the

picture. Do you feel that your Arms Control Agency is now involved at the very beginning of these things in sufficient time to be a full participant?

Mr. WARNKE. I do, Mr. Chairman. I have studied the record of developments since 1975, at which time the Congress put certain amendments into the law which gave our Agency a more integral role and required that we be informed of any of the basic decisions. So that we are now in a position in which we are able to make that sort of an inquiry.

PROPOSED REORGANIZATION

Senator HOLLINGS. On April 13 of this year you sent a letter to the subcommittee notifying us of a proposed reorganization of the Arms Control and Disarmament Agency.

Mr. WARNKE. That is correct.

Senator HOLLINGS. We will put that letter and the enclosures in the record.

[The information follows:]

OFFICE OF THE DIRECTOR

UNITED STATES ARMS CONTROL AND DISARMAMENT AGENCY

WASHINGTON

April 13, 1977

Dear Senator Hollings:

The Report of the Committee on Appropriations for fiscal year 1977 contains a section stating the Committee's desire that the Chairman of the Subcommittee on the Departments of State, Justice, Commerce, the Judiciary and Related Agencies be notified of any reorganization of offices, programs or activities at least fifteen days in advance.

In compliance with the Committee's request, there is attached at Tab A an organization chart reflecting a proposed new structure for the Arms Control and Disarmament Agency. It is my intention to announce the organizational changes reflected in this chart sometime after completion of the fifteen day notification period. A chart of the Agency's existing organizational structure is attached at Tab B.

A comparison of the two charts will show that this reorganization does not contemplate any major changes in the Agency's functions, but will simply realign these functions in what we believe will be a more efficient structure. These organizational changes will not require additional programs, funding or personnel, and the impact on existing staff is expected to be minimal.

Very truly yours,

Paul C. Warnke

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As Stated

The Honorable Ernest F. Hollings
Chairman of the Subcommittee on

Departments of State, Justice,
Commerce, the Judiciary and
Related Agencies

United States Senate

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