BUREAU REORGANIZATION PROPOSED

Senator HOLLINGS. Could you summarize the proposed reorganization for us?

Mr. WARNKE. Basically what we have proposed to do is to reorganize the four existing bureaus of the Arms Control and Disarmament Agency. The existing bureaus are the Military Affairs Bureau, Nonproliferation and Advanced Technology Bureau, International Relations Bureau, and the Verification and Analysis Bureau.

In studying the organizational structure, it has appeared to me that this diffuses responsibility for the various operating activities of the Agency. So what we propose to do is to reorganize the existing units into four new bureaus. One would be a Bureau of International Security Programs. That would include basically the responsibility for the SALT negotiations and the talks on the mutual balanced force reductions. Then there would be a Bureau of Weapons Evaluation and Control. That would include a division which would have both the arms transfer responsibility and the existing Economic Division. In addition to that, it would handle the defense program impact state

ments.

The third bureau would be a Bureau of Multilateral Affairs. That would include the Advanced Technology Division and a unit called the International Relations Division, which would have responsibility for such things as multinational negotiations, including our support for the Conference of the Committee on Disarmament, which is handling such things as the chemical weapons treaty.

Then the final bureau would be a Bureau of Nonproliferation, which would include a Nuclear Energy Division and a Nuclear Exports Division. That would change the present verification effort to provide what I regard as a greatly enhanced verification capability.

What we would do is to take the present Division of Operations Analysis and make that a separate office, reporting directly to the Director. That would involve the long-range studies, computer projections, and so forth.

In addition to that, we would then detail our verification experts to work directly on the particular programs and activities that our agency is engaged in. We would have our verification experts working, for example, directly in the development of our position on strategic arms limitations, working directly on the issues that are involved in the mutual balanced force reductions talk, working directly on issues of verification involving proliferation problems.

My objective is to take the verification people off the shelf and put them into action. I think this would do it.

Senator HOLLINGS. Would this be accomplished generally with the same number of personnel you indicated in your opening statement? Mr. WARNKE. Yes. There would be about the same number. We are hoping to increase slightly our number of verification people.

SEPARATION OF OFFICES

Senator HOLLINGS. One housekeeping matter. On the operating funds for leasing additional office space, does the physical separation of your staff between Rosslyn and the State Department Building impair efficiency in any way?

Mr. WARNKE. There is, I would have to say, some marginal diminution of efficiency any time you have your personnel separated.

In connection with our reorganization effort, what we are endeavoring to do is to take entire units and have them stationed in Rosslyn so you don't have personnel that are split working on the same activity as between the State Department Building and Rosslyn. We think it will work out better that way.

MULTILATERAL TREATY

Senator HOLLINGS. The Arms Control and Disarmament Agency on page 22 in its legislative program states that the multilateral treaty will come under increasing pressure as a result of a growing desire to exploit Antarctica's resources. Can you give us an elaboration on the source and type of pressures that are anticipated?

Mr. WARNKE. Basically, of course, this is an area in which we and the other countries have endeavored to work out some kind of an accommodation so that it would not be a source of confrontation.

As the mineral resources of the world diminish, there are going to be increasing efforts by the more advanced countries to exploit such resources as exist in Antarctica. This will, of course, create greater enforcement problems with respect to the Antarctica Treaty.

As you know, the policy has been to have periodic inspections which are funded by the Arms Control and Disarmament Agency. I believe that one occurred this year. Is that correct, Mr. Baumann? Mr. BAUMANN. Yes.

TERRORISM

Senator HOLLINGS. Finally, on terrorism, does the Disarmament Agency have any role whatever with respect to the control of terrorism?

Mr. WARNKE. Yes, we do, Mr. Chairman. Our chief scientist, Dr. Kupperman, is engaged actively in antiterrorism activities. This has been his fundamental assignment for the past 2 years.

Senator HOLLINGS. Is he making any progress?

Mr. WARNKE. It is hard to measure progress in that field, Mr. Chairman. The effort has been to see if we can't come up with innovative ideas to permit control in crises. Obviously this is something that not only the entire U.S. Government has to work on but also the governments overseas.

Senator HOLLINGS. I want to thank you very much. Anything you wish to add?

Mr. WARNKE. I don't believe so, sir.

Senator HOLLINGS. We appreciate very much your appearance here today. Thank you.

BUDGET AMENDMENT

[CLERK'S NOTE: The following information pertaining to the budget amendment forwarded in H. Doc. 95-144 was supplied subsequent to the hearing and inserted in the record at the direction of the Chairman.]

FY 1977 at 8 months 2/3 x 330,000 220,000 ·

FY 1978 estimate

345,000

NOTE: Military rate

only 0-9 and 0-10 are effected.

U.S. COMMISSION ON CIVIL RIGHTS

STATEMENT OF ARTHUR S. FLEMMING, CHAIRMAN

ACCOMPANIED BY:

LOUIS NUNEZ, ACTING STAFF DIRECTOR

BERT SILVER, ASSISTANT STAFF DIRECTOR FOR ADMINISTRATION

JOHN G. BIRKLE, BUDGET OFFICER

BUDGET REQUEST

Senator HOLLINGS. Our next request is that of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights. The amount requested is $10,540,000, an increase of $462,000, and provides for 296 permanent positions.

Appearing on behalf of this request is Dr. Arthur S. Flemming, Chairman.

INTRODUCTION OF WITNESSES

Mr. FLEMMING. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. With me is Louis Nunez, Acting Staff Director; Bert Silver, Assistant Staff Director for Administration; and John G. Birkle, budget officer.

PREPARED STATEMENT

I have a statement which I would like to request be made a part of the record of this hearing.

Senator HOLLINGS. It will be included in its entirety. You can highlight it as you wish.

[The statement follows:]

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STATEMENT OF ARTHUR S. FLEMMING

Mr. Chairman and Members of the Committee, I am Arthur S. Flemming, Chairman of the U. S. Commission on Civil Rights. With me are Louis Nunez the Acting Staff Director of the Commission; Bert Silver, Assistant Staff Director for Administration; and John G. Birkle, the Budget Officer.

I am testifying in support of the President's request for $10,540,000 and 296 positions for the Commission for Fiscal Year 1978. In Fiscal Year 1977 Congress appropriated $9,450,000 and authorized 288 positions. Supplementary appropriations of $300,000 for pay costs and $328,000 in connection with the age discrimination study are currently pending for Assuming the supplementals are approved the total

Fiscal Year 1977.

appropriation for Fiscal Year 1977 will amount to $10,078,000.

The

request for Fiscal Year 1978 thus amounts to an increase of $462,000 and 8 permanent positions.

The Commission's current authorization is $9,540,000. Legislation has been submitted to increase the authorization to $10,540,000, the amount of the Fiscal Year 1978 request.

The Commission has had a longstanding concern about school desegregation. In June 1975 we held a five-day hearing in Boston,

Massachusetts on that issue and in Fiscal Year 1976 we undertook a program designed to document the facts relative to the issues that were

We held

confronting the nation in the area of school desegregation. additional public hearings in Denver, Tampa, Louisville and Corpus Christi; case studies were conducted by our State Advisory Committees in 29 cities; open meetings were conducted by State Advisory Committees in 4 cities; we held a consultation on the causes of white flight; and we conducted a national survey of school superintendents. We weighed the evidence made available to us, and reached agreement on findings and recommendations to the President and the Congress. We then released a report to the public in August 1976. As a result of our investigations the Commissioners are convinced that although there are problems, school desegregation is